Posts tagged ‘Community Toilet Scheme’
… Council Websites (London)
I’ve made a graphical map of public toilets in London by using the information given on council websites.
You can view the actual map (it’s ‘clickable!’) here. It has labels to show which council is which. You can also Download the Data (.xls)
It says as much about council websites as it does about toilets.
For example, the 4 ‘white’ areas show councils with ‘No Toilets’. That’s because they don’t have a public toilet webpage. They may have squillions of toilets, but like the proverbial tree in the forest – if a public toilet isn’t listed on the council website, does it really exist?
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Idea #9: Crowdsource your Community Toilet Scheme
Age UK have launched a campaign called Change One Thing where they support local older people’s groups to improve their neighbourhood.
Their campaign manager Mary Milne got in touch since naturally the subject of public toilets is coming up quite a lot! Over lunch with my Supervisor Jo-Anne Bichard we got onto the subject of Community Toilet Schemes: Do they work?
Common issues:
- Some people do not feel comfortable using pubs
- A Community Toilet Scheme cannot replace 24Hr provision
- Participants must cover a range of opening hours
- It should include disabled access toilets, baby-changing, family toilets, and if possible, a Changing Places facility
- A scheme by itself will not work in places with high tourism or events, where many people will arrive at once.
- The schemes won’t work in places without enough businesses, e.g. parks!
- You need to assess whether people are using the scheme and each of the different participants, else it’s a waste of money!
This last one bothers me quite a lot; enough to have written a post about it back in October.
How do you get the right participants?
Idea #9 is in line with some of my ramblings yesterday on taking a people-centred design approach to public services (and eventually building the Big Society).
Idea #8: Map your Community Toilet Scheme
So you’ve decided to close your public toilets (approximate saving £18000).
Boo!
But it’s OK because along with the public library, you’ve found 2 pubs and a café who don’t mind the general public using their loos instead, in exchange for hard cash (approximate expense 3 x £600 = £1800).
What’s not to love?
One problem is communication. Everyone who’s visited the town knows that the big ugly block in the main square is the public toilet, not least from the smell.
How will they know that they can use these businesses instead? And where they are?
As mentioned in Idea#7: What Community Toilet Scheme? there are 3 solutions: signs, maps and open data (the open data is so that others can make their own maps).
Idea#7 looked at signs.
Idea #8 looks at maps.
It’s a bit… flawed.
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Idea #7: What Community Toilet Scheme?
Another day, and another council announces it might close some public toilets and pay businesses to let the public use theirs instead (Tendring Council, in case you’re keeping score).
Not necessarily a bad thing. 10 public toilets can become 100 community toilets for the same price. But whilst public toilets are visible in the street, recognisable, and permanent; community toilets are hidden within businesses, not well understood by the public, and the participants frequently change.
So how do you communicate a Community Toilet Scheme?
There’s the slightly inadequate sticker in the window, which you have to know to look for and which some shops are reluctant to display.
Other than that you’ve got three options: Signposts – today’s topic, Maps – tomorrow’s topic, maybe…, and Apps – see ‘Open Data’ – a whole other topic! *dramatic sigh*
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… Wandsworth – Part II
What is a public toilet?
I keep talking about local authorities as the providers of public toilets. In reality I’m not quite that naive.
For there are many ‘publicly-accessible toilets’ that do not (or may not) fall under council control, e.g.
- Parks
- Shopping Centres
- Transport Hubs (Train / Underground / Bus / Port)
Here’s a sliding scale of publicly-accessible toilets that I made.
Green is public sector, blue is private sector.
By ‘accessible’ I mean mentally, or legally, more than physically (accessible is often used to describe wheelchair-accessible facilities – that’s a whole other issue). Accessible is clearly not a great word to use – suggestions are welcome… Some of the ordering is a little dubious too…
Further down the scale most of the toilets are not ‘intended’ for the general public. Including these in maps and apps rather disadvantages those people who don’t wish to ask favours or blag it. Not really inclusive design…
My earlier map of the London Borough of Wandsworth toilets showed the council’s Superloos (marked in yellow) and Community Toilet Scheme (blue), but now it has all of the other publicly-accessible toilets too. This has added nearly 20 extra loos, more than some councils have in the first place!
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Where did these extra toilets come from?
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… Answers
For those that don’t know: when you have a WordPress blog you’re told the Google search terms that led someone here.
For example, today I’ve had:
- children toilet layout
- charging for public conveniences
- queue for ladies loo
- eu law and charging to use mens urinals
- london map toilet
- using public toilets
- sanitary bins for lady’s toilets
These have begun to make me feel guilty.
You’ll never find what you’re looking for in a rambling blog, and yet generally I either think I could help, or know someone or something else that could.
So click here for a link to a range of publications and websites etc. that covers:
- Design
- Provision
- Community Toilet Schemes
- Building Regulations
- British Standards
- Government & Academic Research
- Further Reading
Hope it helps!
Alternatively email me at gail.knight@network.rca.ac.uk.
Any question answered! Even if I don’t know…
… The Greater London Authority – My Response
As fun as it is to intersperse the committee meeting’s minutes with my own comments, I think it would be more helpful if I write (and perhaps send to them, once I’ve made it less anecdotal and ranty) some conclusions and advice in response to the Health & Public Services Committee who are reviewing London’s public toilets.
These recommendations relate to Open London & Community Toilet Schemes. The committee didn’t really cover toilet maps in their discussions, so the comments on this subject that our Research Project submitted as part of the GLA’s Call for Evidence (pdf) still stand.
Open London and Community Toilet Schemes
It’s tempting to think of the Mayor’s Open London scheme as a Community Toilet Scheme for Central London.
In reality, there are clear distinctions between the two.
- Open London covers all of Greater London; Community Toilet Schemes are run by a Borough and cover all or part of a Borough.
- Open London works in partnership with national businesses and retailers, through their Head Office; Community Toilet Schemes work with small businesses and franchises, through Store Managers.
- Open London does not pay businesses a grant to allow non-customers to use their toilets; Community Toilet Schemes do.
- Open London covers businesses who’s toilets you’d use anyway, generally, without asking; Community Toilet Schemes, generally, do not.
The participants of Open London, according to the website, are ASDA, Sainsbury’s, Tesco, Marks & Spencer, Borders (ahem), John Lewis, and Viyella and Austin Reed (both Regent Street only).
Point 1: Which stores have toilets?
The last two are interesting, as it makes you think ‘Oh! I didn’t know these shops had toilets’. The rest; Supermarkets, Department Stores, and M&S; we’d all use anyway, regardless of whether they’re on the scheme.
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… the Greater London Authority
In 2006 the Greater London Authority (GLA) had an investigation into The State of London’s Public Toilets (pdf).
4 years later the Health & Public Services Committee are holding a review.
As part of our research project Out-of-Order we responded to their call for evidence into changes since 2006. You can download our response here. It’s a cracker. (a cracker that takes a moment to load. Like, 10 seconds. It’s worth it, trust me)
Yesterday (12th January) the Committee met to discuss current provision with a range of guests. I watched it this morning via the webcast, got far too into it, and started taking minutes.
It goes on a bit too long for a blog post, so check it out via this link to an entirely paraphrased version of the committee meeting, which includes, as it goes along, my comments and answers to their rhetorical questions.
No really, do.
It was interesting, if personally a bit disappointing. But there are some seeds of ideas and I’m sure (well I’m not, but I’m hopeful) that the GLA will do lots more good things to follow on from this.
Fingers crossed.
… Council Websites
Public Toilets are run by the council. So if you want to know where they are you’ll find the information on the council website.
I’m not suggesting that this is a particularly convenient way to find out where the toilet is if you need the toilet, but you might be planning ahead or particularly concerned about finding facilities (which you would be if you have problems with incontinence, or if you’re caring for someone else, or responsible for a group trip, to give some examples).
And with more councils starting and promoting their community toilet schemes, the information for residents and visitors on which businesses are participating is also to be found online. (Some also make printed maps. I love them.)
A few months ago I was on a committee looking at ways to design out crime in public toilets. One thing that we decided to do was to each look at the council websites of Hertfordshire and report back.
It wasn’t a particularly scientific experiment but just the act of being forced to look at and compare 10 different neighbouring councils’ websites threw up more examples of some basic problems regarding public toilet provision. And council websites.
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… The Coalition
An official response from the Department of Communities and Local Government (DCLG) on public toilets!
This is the new government’s position, in response to my long (and in hindsight, slightly insane) email to my local MP, which, being 5 pages, none of you are going to read, so I’ll just say that the recommendations that the response refers to as ‘Ms Knight’s proposals’ were actually the recommendations of the 2008 DCLG Select Committee that I just happen to agree with.
I thought maybe, just maybe, the new government would reconsider the previous rejection of the Select Committee recommendations (actually I didn’t, but figured that I shouldn’t leave any stone unturned).









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